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Linear, fixed anti-sandbox designs with "One True Way to Win" are suited for puzzle games, not a Roleplaying experience or simulation of a world/scenario.

Trying to shoehorn "art elements" and film-like "expirience" into a video game is a recipe for failure. Its non-essential element that can ruin gameplay. Like rewriting a game mechanic around a cutscene.

agreed, but who said that this is supposed to be an RPG or simulation? it's supposed to be a survival horror, which is generally a rather linear genre.

but it did give us some interesting game series - things like Shenmue or Metal Gear Solid.

there's place for games like that too

Too much linear gameplay will be boring, regardless of difficulty. Replay-ability and diversity of gameplay choices is more important: when a plot dictates something must happen it has to allow choices instead of forcing the player to be a pawn in a scenario.

These are not realistic for an indie dev, both these games had a giant art budget.

Studios cranking out risky movie-like games are an anomaly, generally the more time is invested in linear elements(like cutscenes and one-way quests) the less there is gameplay content to replay.

Yeah, and its called a 'Visual Novel'.

pure skill games can be as linear as they want - nobody ever complained about DoDonPachi not having branching storyline.

so? I'm not talking about 'realistic for indie dev', I'm giving counterpoints to your're are absolutes. don't move the goalposts

their're are not risky for the studios. in fact, their're are a safe choice

or 'interactive fiction'. or 'point and click adventure' your're are talking in absolute quantifiers without breadth and depth of knowledge required to make such statements

But the subject is RPG/Rpg-like games.

The whole cutscene-centric gameplay will be ridiculed in the future as some braindead attempt to emulate the film industry by gaming studio executives.

Western "interactive fiction" is dead.

>>62

cooke clicker is almost non-interactive, but not zero-interaction
cookie clicker is almost non-interactive, but not zero-interaction

still, the main idea is that the game plays itself, for the most part

Immserion isn't always about realism or story. Immersion can also be about fun and gameplay. You are immersed in the mechanics of the game and what you're supposed to be doing. Elona has bad graphics and animations and very minimal and repetitive sound effects. But it is still immersive and engrossing because of the depth of the gameplay. There is so much to do and your imagination fills in the gaps.
Immersion isn't always about realism or story. Immersion can also be about fun and gameplay. You are immersed in the mechanics of the game and what you're supposed to be doing. Elona has bad graphics and animations and very minimal and repetitive sound effects. But it is still immersive and engrossing because of the depth of the gameplay. There is so much to do and your imagination fills in the gaps.

Well, it looks like its one of these indie games just with lots more dialog options. Its as immersive as average visual novel.

Actually lots of middle-aged women and children play MMO's now

Maybe you're thinking of early 2000's MMOs?

they're more casual now.

far more immersive than most single-player 2D crap

Witcher/Skyrim

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>Well, it looks like its one of these indie games just with lots more dialog options. Its as immersive as average visual novel.
No fun allowed! Have fun with your ``immersive'' footstep sound effects while ignoring real ways to make a gun fun and engrossing.
>Actually lots of middle-aged women and children play MMO's now
And?
>Maybe you're thinking of early 2000's MMOs? 
No. On the whole, the MMO genre is dying. People play mobas and shit now.
>>95
>they're more casual now.
They never should have been so grindy in the first place. That was a huge flaw in their design. The devs would spend like 5 hours making content that takes the player 20 hours to complete. Lazy and shitty game design based on the flawed business model of trying to keep the player playing for as long as possible, despite them working on a limited time frame and budget. So, by nature, MMOs had to be super slow-paced. 
>far more immersive than most single-player 2D crap
Immersive? Maybe. Enjoyable? Hell no. Single player games don't have ongoing upkeep costs, so they don't need to artificially increase the time it takes to complete content. You can make a really fun single player RPG that only has 10 hours of content, and overall it will leave the player feeling happier than an MMO that requires thousands of hours and leaves the player feeling jaded and unhappy because it cucks the players by making everything take forever.
>Witcher/Skyrim
Better graphics, but worse story and gameplay.
2D RPGs are great in the sense that they are technically pretty simple to make, meaning hobbyists who enjoy games can make them on their own. They can make games for fun rather than just a cash grab. They also spend more time on game mechanics, story, and things like that instead of just graphics. I think Morrowind is a better example of a 3D RPG.

Elona has a lot of cool shit that many other RPGs don't have. You can steal anything. You can kill pretty much anyone, though there are penalties for doing so. You can be a street performer who plays an instrument for money. You can have houses. You can make money by opening a museum and attracting visitors with your cool items in it. You can set up shelters anywhere for when the weather is bad. You can get strange diseases. You can mutate. You can make enemies drunk by giving them alcohol. You can detonate nukes. You can talk to NPCs. You can do quests. You can go to dungeons. You can have a follower. You can fuck hookers. You can mutate and gain extra body parts. You can worship a god. You can kill god. You can modify weapons and armor. You can get married. You can genetically alter things. You can give NPCs poisoned or rotten food. You can download and install add-ons to the game. You can use your own graphics. You can cast tons of different kinds of spells. You can steal your opponent's weapon. You can see when other players die, even though it's not multiplayer. You can visit other players' houses, even though you can't play with them. You can ignore combat and do trade goods between different regions. You can have kids. You can have heirlooms for your descendants. You can play as your kid (kind of like NewGame+).

Other RPGs are mostly just combat and dialogue and stupid crafting systems.

You can steal anything.

You can have houses.

You can make enemies drunk by giving them alcohol.

You can detonate nukes.

You can fuck hookers.

You can mutate and gain extra body parts.

You can worship a god.

You can kill god.

You can modify weapons and armor.

You can get married.

You can genetically alter things.

You can give NPCs poisoned or rotten food.

You can download and install add-ons to the game.

You can use your own graphics.

You can cast tons of different kinds of spells.

You can steal your opponent's weapon.

You can see when other players die, even though it's not multiplayer.

You can visit other players' houses, even though you can't play with them.

You can ignore combat and do trade goods between different regions.

You can have kids.

You can have heirlooms for your descendants.

You can play as your kid (kind of like NewGame+).

Runescape

Killing NPCs in a MMO is bad design

you can play as a (female) performer dancing in a MMO and have real players donate stuff/currency to you.

Second Life is essentially the Housing Online MMO

Single-player RPGs probably have this, but its scripted.

Erotic Roleplay in Roleplay servers

This is more common in asian MMOs.

Only in scripted single-player RPGs.

WoW alone has hundreds of addons.

Other RPGs are mostly just combat and dialogue and stupid crafting systems.

by keeping a game single player and 2D, you are spending less time on graphics and engine work

Nope, by taking a FPS engine(Unreal 4) and adding some RPG elements

decent Action-RPG in a month

I don't find a single quality of this game immersive

Have fun with your generic FPS RPG that nobody will ever download

Don't fool yourself, you're not gonna make the next League of Legends. Delusions of grandeur. Those kinds of projects are impossible for solo developers

Those kinds of projects are impossible for solo developers

2D single player is much more doable for indie devs who are working alone. You really can't argue with that point, but you will anyway for some reason.

Tons of free 3D engines. Tons of Free 3d assets.

You're not gonna be a billionaire developer by making copycat shit.

You're not gonna be a billionaire developer by making copycat shit.

don't need to make interesting gamepla

By the sounds of it, you don't really want to make your own game.

A typical programmer thinks he has to design his own engine that will be fast, non-bloated and capable of unique gameplay mechanics.

Imagine getting this upset about someone enjoying making something.

unimportant stuff

closed system centered on game engines

software development is a open set of interfaces and protocols

Gamedev isn't that great for practicing you "general programming" skills

content/script within the game engine

Huh? I'm writing my own game engine, not using some closed source game engine someone else made.

What's that supposed to mean? Are you saying I shouldn't make a project because software development is more general?

Why not? What I'm doing demonstrate knowledge of GUI stuff, debugging, making a decent-sized project, file IO, exception handling, OOP, etc. Sure, it's not the most amazing project ever. But it's a start. You don't start off by writing really advanced shit.

But I'm making the game engine myself, and that's a bulk of the work for it. I'm not spending a ton of time on the stuff after that.

The only way to get better at programming is to program more. I am doing this as a project to program more.

"The Chad hacker writing 3 games per month" vs "Virgin Programmer building a 10 year old pyramid by himself".

So ITT people say you don't need to make a game engine,

don't need to make interesting gameplay,

don't need music,

don't need cut scenes,

don't need good writing,

don't need dialogue options,

don't need to make your own 3D assets, and don't need art.

By the sounds of it, you don't really want to make your own game.

You just want to put things together that other people made.

But at that point, is it even really yours?

Sure, it's faster than doing things yourself.

But you lose autonomy over your project.

You can no longer call it yours if you just glue together pre-made stuff that you had no part in creating.

you seem hellbent on discouraging people from programming, guy

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There alternatives to character levels:
1,Skill-use leveling, all skills are available as level 1 and rise in levels by continued use(N*1.1^L per level) uses. Its intuitive but very tiresome to gain levels vs character leveling.

2.Upgrades from consumables: character stats are boosted by consuming some stuff that permanently alters stuff.

3.Skill upgrades from items:like reading a book in Diablo1 boost a skill by one level.

4.Skill-use gated experience: basically you're leveling up a skill instead of character(expirience goes to skill exp). Doesn't work well with non-attack skills or utility skills.

5.Time-gated item-level expirience: like in EVE online, your equipment gains levels by just existing/being alive/being equipped. Most boring and least interactive option.

6.Consumable-Experience: expirience(gain) exists but levels don't, just all skills consume gained expirience points, like mana for spells. Hard to balance for lower levels(it needs a boost for beginners)

7.Skill-use component upgrades: like #1, but instead of adding levels to a skill, you upgrade a level of component of a skill, like adding +1 range/+5 damage/+1 speed to fireball(i.e. upgrading stat components of skills by skill-level-points). Far more build diversity overall than any other option.

8.Consumable skill component upgrades:same as #7 but you need to find magic reagents to upgrade your skill components.

9.Charging skills: skills upgrade their stats by charging(continous usage) and lose with idle time. It can be combined with other systems.

Tyrone stared at the screen, getting angry and flustrated

are broad enough to allow genre freedom and flexibility

>>187
I'd argue that nowadays it's less a gaming industry and more of a gamified gambling and social media industry. Lootboxes, random chance to get a good thing, but you most often get shit you don't like. And it's being tied to social media, with built-in share options (i.e. #PS4share), Twitch, etc. People have pipe dreams about escaping wage slavery by becoming a Youtube LPer or Twitch streamer or eSports player, and that fuels a lot of it. It's all fantasy. It's the modern day equivalent to gambling.

Gaming was about games and strategy and shit. Now? It's about paying for a random change to get a good item that will make your character stronger, which you need, because you want more views and likes and shares, and you need to get good to escape minimum wage for your dream of becoming a big social media gamer.
Gaming was about games and strategy and shit. Now? It's about paying for a random chance to get a good item that will make your character stronger, which you need, because you want more views and likes and shares, and you need to get good to escape minimum wage for your dream of becoming a big social media gamer.

It's hardly about games at all now.

tfw playing on private servers and not donating

Modern gaming is gambling and social manipulation.

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don't reward time-investment

lets cripple every player vision with SSAO(for a mere 20% performance drop)
its realistic if we consider everyone eyes can't adjust to distance and function as photo camera

Anti-aliasing is essentially blurring defects in the game.

Its sometimes cheap, but the real solution is increasing resolution to 4k and creating smooth meshes without sharp edges.

videogames are degenerate

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how to collaboratively design our games

So i invented a magical excuse that monsters can shift through walls/objects since they're part non-physical.
It makes pathing much simpler and linear.

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I'm not talking about working on it, I'm talking about publishing a demo.

FrozenAnus keeps being a lolcow

Spell of Mastery was never officially announced

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>>507
They had deadline, and then the backlash came, when buyers found that the game is unplayable, because always crashes after 30 minutes of play. So obviously devs paniced and began https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_debugging in home of hiding the problem under the carpet.
They had deadline, and then the backlash came, when buyers found that the game is unplayable, because always crashes after 30 minutes of play. So obviously devs panicked and began https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_debugging in hope of hiding the problem under the carpet.

After that they realized that it cant be saved and the whole engine must be rewritten to get rid of smart pointers, or whatever simplistic crap they used to fragment the heap THAT much.
After that they realized that it is defective by design and the whole engine must be rewritten to get rid of smart pointers, or whatever simplistic crap they used to fragment the heap THAT much. So now they remember that pitfall dearly. C++ isn't a guarantee that you will succeed, because C++ just welcomes some nasty bugs. Same with C# and Java, only in different dimension.

I'm not a programmer though

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Turn based games are bad

I'm thinking of a seven-part battle royale

topdown shooter
zombie survival
minimal graphics

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