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Gender stuff

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 14:15

What's with the gender stuff? Especially the tendency of some posters to use ``ey'', ``them'', et cetera. Am I missing some fad that you guys are getting yourselves into in your real life OR some other online forum/community?

I am aware of the LGBT movement and whatnot, so that's that? Some of us here are part of this movement? Is it because of your ``openmindedness'', or are you a lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender?

Or perhaps it's some semantics enthusiast who longs for a gender-neutral spoken language?

If you want my sincere opinion, I think this whole thing is dumb. As dumb as getting a hissy fit on the use of the word ``nigger''. (or ``jew'')

Honestly I want to believe that /prog/ is populated by smart beings who don't have such stupid intellectual preconceptions. But you are lucky if such are your intellectual preconceptions: It's easy for others to point them out to you, and it's easy for you to understand them. What about me? I have no popular misconceptions. All my misconceptions are dark corners in an otherwise lit room. Nobody will point them out. Will I find out by myself?

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 14:50

It's just the feminist bullshit that kikes spread throughout the western society to disrupt and degrade it.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 14:57

I, for one, hate gender as it limits behaviour for no good reason. In general, I hate the identity equivalent of every common descriptor (race, sexual ``orientation'', etc).

I personally find that the LGBT movement has gone too far in the direction of identity theory instead of doing the sane thing and rejecting it altogether. If you're male or female or straight or gay or trans or whatever else and you define yourself through that and you let that govern you and determine your entire personality and social interactions, and you go as far as wanting people to use [i]a specific pronoun[/i] when referring to you just to acknowledge that you are indeed in a certain social group, it's your right but you're a fucking dumbass.

Reclaiming a word? Group shit.
Mad because someone outside your group uses a word? Group shit.
Appropriation? Group shit.
The occasional men vs women bullshit? Group shit.

For this reason, I refuse to acknowledge gender (i.e. sex identity) in other people by not using gendered pronouns; it's not out of respect, it's out of disrespect.

But you are lucky if such are your intellectual preconceptions: It's easy for others to point them out to you, and it's easy for you to understand them. What about me? I have no popular misconceptions. All my misconceptions are dark corners in an otherwise lit room.
That's the same for everyone. They're not even dark corners, they're the shadows behind the furniture; you don't see them normally, for otherwise you could get rid of them.

Nobody will point them out. Will I find out by myself?
Maybe.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 15:07

>>3
So you have gender problems. Have you tried hormone therapy? What's your testosterone level?

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 15:28

>>3
There are many people that don't fit into the established roles by being gay, lesbian, transgender, whatever, but aren't willing to throw out their identity tags. Rather than throwing out roles all together, they create new roles, take existing roles and swap them around until they feel they fit their intended identity. Then they fight to make these new roles a part of the norm. The path of least resistance would be to accept yourself and let go of the expectation that there is some established role for you. Others will constantly try to fit you into a role you don't belong, so there will be misunderstandings. If you can't deal with this, then you can start a movement to create a new role that you like better than the others and publicly announce your membership to this role. This deflects the misunderstandings from you to the new role itself. It can also serve as a friendly signal to others in the same category so they feel safe around you or in the case of sexuality, able to engage in a relationship with you. So there are advantages and disadvantages to both. With the new role you are still limited by a role, and without it society will label you with other roles regardless.

>>4
common idiot.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 15:34

>>5
And then we have this bullshit:
http://allfacebook.com/58-genders-facebook_b129438

No thanks, I'd rather be a common idiot. At least I don't have erection problems like you.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 15:39

>>6
Because all males are biological jack hammer machines. And if their dick goes limp you throw them out and get a new one. Like any other tool. You are just as dumb as they are.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 15:53

>>7
No, because in order to make babies there needs to be a man - not some transgender undefined piece of biomass - and a woman, and the man must shove his dick into her cunt, and ejaculate. And then the woman must be pregnant for approximately 9 months while the man provides food, shelter and care for her when she can't work. He must also continue protecting providing for the family while she cares for the infant, while the woman takes care of home and hearth.

This is the way it works in 95% cases, whether you like it or not, and until that biomechanic changes, there will be fixed roles. It's the optimal way for a human society to survive and reproduce. Any society where the man's and woman's roles deteriorate is bound to be overrun by the healthier societies. For example, right now the Western societies are being overrun by the Muslims who have crystal clear man-woman role distinction and therefore much higher birth rates than the gender-unsure Western liberal LGBT slime.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:14

>>3
I, for one, hate gender as it limits behaviour for no good reason.
I am a man who likes 2D girls. I hate parties, people talking about football annoy me, I don't do drugs, I always leave the toilet lid down and I dislike TV whores. According to societythe niggers out there, I am not a man. However, everyone still calls me a ``he'' because I don't have breasts or a soft high-pitched voice.

You are taking this too seriously. A gendered pronoun isn't going to kill you or condition you to like dicks overnight.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:14

>>1-9
is your IQ level under 90? do you realize that this is /prog/, not /lounge/? are you idiots? do you need help?

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:18

I am a dragon loving individual and request to be called by the pronoun ``dhe'', pronounced ``dee''. I encourage my fellow dragon lovers to make the same request to their friends and acquaintances.

Thank you for listening.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:21

I am a heron and I have a long beak. Call me a heron or I will make a mess of your pots and pans.

Thank you for listening.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:26

>>10
I've no idea what my IQ is. I tried taking the test once, but it was so boring I dropped it halfway. I seriously doubt that IQ is a measure of intelligence. Basic logical abilities - perhaps, but intelligence - nope.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:28

>>13
You are apparently lacking in those basic logical abilities as well, as you can't distinguish /prog/ from /lounge/.

Name: Rob `Commander' Pike 2014-05-04 16:29

I used to support gays but then when I grew up a bit I saw what they're like on reddit and now I don't like them

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:33

>>14
That's because I've never been to /lounge/. And it wasn't me who started this thread. Sorry.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:36

>>2
Okay now I understand why you do this.

By the way, reading your replies I figure out you're a bunch of idiots.

>>10
I posted this here because this behavior manifests on /prog/ and is therefore related to /prog/. Get accustomed with metathreads.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:39

Eye'm a fairy, eye have a dress and ice danmaku. Call me the strongest or eye'll deep freeze you with some english beef

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:44

>>17
is therefore related to /prog/
No, it's not. Although if you're such an idiot that you believed /prog/ uses ``xir'' in a spirit of openmindedness, I can see how you might be incapable of understanding how to be on-topic.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 16:59

>>19
Provide arguments as to why metathreads are not part of /prog/. In fact, I don't think /prog/ is anything but my board for everything anonymous. The amount of shitposting I witnessed on 4chan made me realize nothing is sacred, and that it is actually better that way.

I think it's natural for me to be interested in the psychotic individuals that post here. Also, ``xir'' is something completely different from what I normally experience in my life. There's not a single person I know that has even heard of the word. Of course this is true for much of what I do and read about on the internet.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 17:07

>>8
Go build a stronger colony, ant. Your queen demands it.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 17:13

>>21
Humans are nothing but a colony of ants who multiply when the conditions are favorable and die out when they aren't (war, famine, epidemic, draught, etc). Whether you fucking like it or not. Nothing is more stupid than the egotistical rational intellect.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 17:28

>>8,22
* There is more than one way to maintain a high birthrate. Besides, straights can fuck and procreate all they want. Fags hanging around aren't going to interfere.
* Gay couples are a source of parenthood. They can raise children that would otherwise be abandoned by straight couples.
* A high birthrate is shit anyway since it will only lead to over population. I hope I don't live to the point when the earth is saturated. It'll be like a zombie apocalypse except the zombies are just people acting on instinct. If you are into that race war shit, the optimal strategy would be to maintain self sufficiency as a nation and enforce the borders so when the rest of the world falls into famine you don't get flooded.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 17:47

>>23
* Yes, but so far only one way is working: enforce social laws that stabilize the male and female roles within the family.
* LGBT and feminism decrease birth-rate not only through encouraging non-straights never to "straighten out", but also through deteriorating moral values in the supposedly straights. "Oh I don't want to have children, I'm an independent woman and my career is the priority" "Oh I don't want to get my girlfriend pregnant, she'll make me spend my money on the kid" "Oh I wanna be a sissy, who says I have to be strong and protect my woman?" etc etc.
* Gay couples that raise children are a negligible minority, but promoting feminism in the society affects the majority
* A high birthrate is shit but shit survives while non-shit dies. It's the law of life: only the most prolific survive.
* "maintain self sufficiency as a nation and enforce the borders so when the rest of the world falls into famine you don't get flooded" - but that's not possible because all the hippies and socialists continually spread the "humans are all equal" bullshit, which leads to sending all your money to starving children in Uganda and wasting your taxes on welfare for immigrants so they can make babies without getting a job. It's very hard or impossible to limit overpopulation or immigration in a democracy, as the contemporary Western civilization shows us.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 17:57

The USA birthrate is 13 per thousand. Germany? 8. Afghanistan? 35.

Afghanistan. It's a fucking desolate mountain and desert country that was devastated by wars for decades.

Iran has 19, Egypt 24, and Italy 9.

Of course, the poor countries have higher mortality rates too, but what happens when these people emigrate to the West? They get "human rights" and welfare and free medical care, but their ability to procreate stays the same. And when they become the majority, they won't give a good god damn about your pronouns or LGBT rights.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 18:00

>>24
enforce social laws that stabilize the male and female roles within the family.
Like beating your wife.

deteriorating moral values
high birthrate is a cultural thing. Cultures with ties to a religion that encourages a high birthrate will have a higher birthrate. Getting fucked and having lots of kids isn't necessarily good. Especially if you have more kids than you can actually provide for. Or a society can provide for.

Oh I don't want to have children, I'm an independent woman and my career is the priority
Then get a house husband.

Oh I don't want to get my girlfriend pregnant, she'll make me spend my money on the kid
If you can't afford it, it wouldn't be responsible in the first place.

Oh I wanna be a sissy, who says I have to be strong and protect my woman?
There's women out there that are strong enough to not need your [s]protection[/s] enslavement.

are a negligible minority
citation needed, but even if it was true, it is subject to change.

but shit survives while non-shit dies
society will collapse under the chaos of famine. We as a species might not survive it. In fact I would bet we wipe ourselves out once we start fighting over depleting resources first.

but that's not possible
It's possible but we are fucked either way.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 18:04

actually discussing this shit

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 18:17

>>27
/backplate getgoes/

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 18:35

>>24
LGBT and feminism decrease birth-rate [...] through deteriorating moral values in the supposedly straights. "Oh I don't want to have children, I'm an independent woman and my career is the priority"
What the fuck? I'm a straight male, I hate fags and feminist kikes, and I'm not having children because I'm not a horny nigger who likes drooling parasites.

I fail to see how LGBT and feminism have any effect on this.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 18:36

>>27
Who are you quoting?

Name: >>3 2014-05-04 21:16

>>9
Don't get me wrong, I don't care what other people call me. You can call me he, she, it, xit, or whatever the fuck you might come up with; I might not answer you since I won't be used to those pronouns. All I'm saying is that I'm not going to use gendered pronouns when /I/ refer to other people.

Also, I didn't know the social darwinist was still around. Or maybe lel-kunt is just pretending to be them to piss us off.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-04 21:18

If I will have a child it shall be an only one and a daughter.

Name: >>9 2014-05-04 22:21

>>31
Where's the social darwinist? I don't see any of his posts in this thread.

Also, you said you use gender-neutral pronouns out of disrespect. But calling everyone ``he'' or ``she'', no matter what they identify themselves with, is enough to piss them off. In fact, assuming everyone on /prog/ (or the Internet) is a male is much more effective than calling them ``ey'' and making them think they're dealing with an open-minded liberal fag-lover.

Name: Anonymous 2017-09-08 23:13

what did `````ey''''' mean by this?

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