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Dear lounge

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-02 18:28

This is the email I recieved that started this conversation.
As you can see, the person complains about some social issue said person is having on servers. I don't know why a man would care about such things...
Now this person is accusing me of worshiping the devil, complaining about my "behavior", when this person emailed me and I've never done any "behavior" save for pressing keys on a keyboard.
What is this about?
xrun1@users.sourceforge.net
From:xrun1@users.sourceforge.net
To:chaosesqueteam@users.sourceforge.net
Cc:xrun1@users.sourceforge.net

<rika@disroot.org>

Hello, you are MikeeUSA, right? I'm a Xonotic modder who was editing one of your map a few months ago, roundel. I happened to find the README you left in the pk3 and was positively surprised, given the sorry state of the average audience for this game. I wholeheartedly agree with your message, and I'm sure you and I both know by now how everyone will have our head on a pike for reaching such a level of awareness.

Yesterday I was searching about Xonotic on imageboard archives, found some of your posts, and made the connection. SF is very slow so I'm still downloading your game, but I'm shocked there's such a strange-looking fork of Xonotic that's been worked on for 10 years and seems to contain so much content, yet no one has ever mentioned it.
I've only been playing since 2019 so I don't know about all the drama, but it seems like you're been persecuted for your beliefs. Unfortunately, you have to choose between having any online presence and revealing them. On top of that, developing in these obscure niches is a lonely road, it's unlikely you will ever get the help you seek. I'm baffled by the level you've reached myself, and am clearly far below in term of skills. At my level, I struggle daily to make sense of Xonotic's code base, and the code for new features I implement on top is far from being clean.

My server's gameplay differs far more than any other server on the list, but no one cares and I barely manage to assemble some games on some nights. Despite living in the EU like most of the player base, I have zero chances to grow there because I'm not in the big two club, and thus I have to host for NA and wake up at 4 AM, profiting from the fact that the only other established NA server is full of drama and bans most newcomers. Given the trouble I have even though I'm working with a game that has some players already, I can really feel your pain. I know it's not much, but I'll remember you.

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-02 18:32

>Can you stop and think out of the box for two seconds about your behavior,
What "behaviour". This is the internet, nothing takes place here.
The only "behavior" that is occuring is the pressing of square buttons.

>or are you a psychopath incapable of reasoning?
"If you don't agree with me you are a psychopath"
A very reasonable argument.

>Why are you so obsessed with torture?
You said people in europe came after you, including police.
You indicated you feared prison and consequences.
The solution is the make the consequences for your adversary far worse than what they could ever inflict upon you:
because they will.

Don't ask a question you do not want answered.
Not even by omission.

>Do you watch gore and snuff in your free time?
Nope. You sound like a woman. Are you a woman?
Your way of arguing is not like a mans.
It leans heavily on emotional manipulation and shaming,
and shys away from contemplating direct physical conflict,
or any direct action at all.
It imagines consequences from third parties, instead of the first party or the principael itself.

>From the moment we start talking,
I've been silent this whole time, are you hearing things?
>these words are in your mouth,
I haven't spoken a word to you.

>it's repulsive.
I'm not trying to fuck you, bitch.

>It's no wonder that no one wants to associate with you,
Again: we've never met, and I have never met any of these "others".
Do you have any map formats in hand that you will graciously donate to this GPL'd project?
If not; what value is it to me to "associate" with you (whatever that means)?
Why would I seek out this "association"?
Additionally: I did not email you: you emailed me: remeber?

Again another womanly characteristic: blaming me for what you "initiated"

>your behavior is fucking creepy.
No behavior has taken place.
Save for the rhytmic up and down motions of a number of depressed keys, not exceeding 128.

>Do you worship the devil?
YHWH.
The Dragon.

>Do you want to drink the blood of your victims and harvest adrenochrome too?
I want to marry cute little girl virgins.
Same as any man.

>How many corpses do you hide in your basement?
Zero. The basement is a night club.
You should know this.

>Can you stop and think out of the box for two seconds about your behavior, or are you a psychopath incapable of reasoning? Why are you so obsessed with torture? Do you watch gore and snuff in your free time? From the moment we start talking, these words are in your mouth, it's repulsive. It's no wonder that no one wants to associate with you, your behavior is fucking creepy. Do you worship the devil? Do you want to drink the blood of your victims and harvest adrenochrome too? How many corpses do you hide in your basement?

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-02 18:35

Am I supposed to be happy he(she?) was fucking with my maps?
>Oh thank you so much for fucking with my stuff, thank you, let me kiss your feet! or really your fundament probably in the original language.

Did she think I would be so besmitten with the initial praise that I would simply agree with whatever cuntish shit she believes? Why would I care about her except for whatever shit she can and does bring to the table. IE: I want map format code. In C. In C ISO90.

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-02 19:32

pure spam

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-02 21:36

>>4
Nope, I want answers and I was here before you dipshit fuck

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-03 4:28

Sun, Mar 2 at 11:23 PM
Dear Rika:
Instead of arguing about religion, how about this.
You implement a map format of your choice into the engine (source code) included with this project, in the C90 ISO standard (declarations before executable code in blocs) and the engine thence be improved in a real and measurable way.

Once you have done that you may add, in ASCII, (comment) Art a Cross of your choosing to the top of one of the edited files that doesn't yet have one.

Thus perhaps attracting Sanctifying Grace to counter act the very clear Devil worship that John Carmack was engaged in during the creation of Quake (remeber he got very rich too).

If you don't know of a format that you would like to implement; please choose from one of the ones on the wishlist or tracker areas on the project page. However any format will be accepted provided it does not use external libraries at all (ie all code is real code you or others have done for the engine) and it is under the same license as the engine (GPLv2 +) and compiles etc and we can get it to be ISOC90 compliant (not hard, just no use of C95 stuff like movable arrays etc) That way it will be good for old hardware poor whites have.

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-03 6:33

pure spam

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-03 18:43

>>7
Nope, email exchange about programming, dipshit fucking tranny fuck.
I was here first, get the FUCK out of my website.

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-03 21:06

>>8
pure spam, kill all spammers

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-03 21:27

Roundhouse kick a spammer into the concrete

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-04 1:44

Am I supposed to be happy he(she?) was fucking with my maps?

Yes? I get being salty about someone emailing to diss you, but this part is dumb. If you don't want people to edit the maps, why open-source them? Do you want to be like the faggots that make Doom WADs and call it "art" and "muh self expression" and you had better not "steal" "their" sprites that they ripped from Duke Nukem 3D and recoloured green?

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-06 2:31

>>11
"Dear 11, hi i'm just txting you to tell you how great your maps are, they are so great I am editing them! You are so oppressed. Kthx bi"

"DEAR 11 THIS IS WHY NO ONE WANTS TO WORK WITH YOU!!! FUCK YOU !!!!"

>>11
In this transaction you were "paid"
>Someone editing your maps (this does not benifit you)
>"Praise"
You are now expected to "repay" by agreeing with them on their social issue. (In this case Jesus being god, better a millstone, don't rape little girls into marraige, oppose old testament god because he's a rapist who wants you to marry little girls, and also agree that he didn't really mean any of that and Jesus clarified things).

What have you gained in this "transaction"?
Why should you be expected to "pay" by changing your beliefs to this other persons beliefs.

>>11
Now: As to "why I made them opensource if bla bla bla"
Licenses are a grant. Permission.
Permission does not mean I am happy about you editing my maps.
Just as if I give you an gratis easement to reach some wilderness area, it doesn't mean I am happy you do so.

The value of you reaching the wilderness area, for free, due to my easement and your legs: is with you.
It does not benifit me.
Nor does it make me happy.

I gain nothing.
>So why grant the easement.
So deer can be shot. Or so the wolves in the wilderness area can gnaw on the hikers that enter of their own volition.

Does this benifit me?
No.
Does it hurt white faggots who oppose men marrying little girls. Yes.

>How does this relate to opensource.
Nothing is free.
When one is tempted by the open code or media, it draws some in.
They waste their life changing it, entranced by it's false complexity.
And then their life is set.
And is over.

That is one potential reason to do something that does not benifit oneself.

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-06 2:36

>>11
Just because I put my stuff on the net does not obligate me to agree with you because you edited my stuff.
>NO U HAVE TO BE GRATEFUL FAGGOT WHITE EDITED YOUR STUFF, AND IN REPAYMENT MUST DO SOMETHING THEY WANT AND AGREE WITH THEM.

You get the problem here?
Mother fucking moron.

How about "if u didn't want it edited, why release it at all": because all stuff will be edited copyright or not. Ever think about that you fucking cock sucking faggot? Did you? Because that works on the same principal.

Additionally I never said that I didn't want my stuff edited. NOR did I say I wanted it edited.
I never said I cared.
But EMAILER thinks (s)he's doing me a favor by editing my stuff.
YOU GET THAT FUCK HEAD

And has been arguing with me about religion for every email after the first.
The first was a "hey hi here's some praise, now you owe me".

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-06 2:43

>>11
How about
*"Hi, I like your work and am editing it, anything I can help you with"
+'oh yes 11, I'd like some more map formats programmed in, here's the tracker link, but any map format you like is fine too'
*"Oh great, I will implement some for the engine!, You made something I like , I'll make something you like"

See that? That is a transaction that benifits me.
What do we have here
*"Hi, I like your work an am editing it, ughhh those opressors on the big two servers have been opressing me, it's a shame you are oppressed too by those meanies"
+'??? ... YHWH says to Rape little girls, he's based"
*"No he DOESNT, JESUS IS LORD, Also FUCK YOU, THIS IS WHY EVERYONE HATES YOU AND NO ONE WILL WORK WITH YOU!!!"
+'heh that praise dried up real fast didn't it'
*"JESUS IS LORD YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT LIKE YOUR WORK DOESNT MEAN YOU KNOW SHIT ABOUT GOD, BTW GOD SPEAKS TO ME, YOU WORSHIP SATAN OR SOMETHING LIKE JEWS! LOSER IDIOT"
+'you argue like a woman, I am not trying to fuck you bitch. still like my work now?'
+'how about instead of arguing about religion you implement some of the map formats posted on the tracker , i've done one myself and would like some help'
+'hello?'
+'hello?'


What did I gain here?

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-06 2:45

(Note: I know nothing about the "two big servers" or any womanly or homosexual problem the faggots have, only making stuff is important, not running societies)

Name: Anonymous 2025-03-06 2:55

>>11
>Recolor sprite.
I recently implemented a shader directive to tint whatever texture.
Funny you mention recolouring. :P.

The engine simply didn't have that exposed as a shader directive.
Halo3 has it, and Halo4.
So now my version of the engine has it.
Previously you had to tint per-entity. Now you can do it with shader.
Just like in halo.
Should you? No: you should make custom themed textures once. Can you: now you can.

I posted a screenshot to Quakeone forum, and Brex or Brett or.. Baxter.. or Baker ... didn't notice and was just dissing me

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