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Name: Anonymous 2018-07-27 8:16

They are going after archival sites.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-27 8:24

They got rid of CD/DVD. They are coming for our guns.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-27 12:45

Fravia will never die!

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-27 20:12

Makes sense, archives have always been a thorn in their side.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-27 21:54

Source?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 5:13

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 5:17

>>6
imagine giving a shit about video games

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 5:23

>>7
Imagine being out of touch boomer complaining about cellphones and video games ruining youth.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 6:15

>>8
imagine being a good unquestioning consumer drone and basing your identity around shit that was formulated in a board meeting for making money for some soulless corporation

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 6:24

>>9
Gamer identity isn't controlled by any corporation, this isn't boomers hooked on right-wing radio hosts and tv programs.
Gaming as a subculture is hostile to any attempts to control their identity or political preferences. You probably thinking of children when you imagine a impressionable consumer, but average age of a gamer is 35.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 6:30

>>10
Gamer identity
oof
>this isn't boomers hooked on right-wing radio hosts and tv programs
there's more to right-wing ideology than radio and TV
read books

>isn't controlled by any corporation
it's a bunch of people who want your money -- they're not all the same company, but it's still consumer garbage and just leisure, not something meaningful

imagine basing your existence around living for pleasure and doing nothing of use

>but average age of a gamer is 35.
probably counting angry birds on phones, but I doubt the average "gamer" is more than 25
you know, the degenerates who spend all their time playing games, and base their whole personality and identity around it
pathetic

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 6:48

there's more to right-wing ideology than radio and TV, read books
The book-reading intellectuals are a tiny minority of the right-wing, which promotes anti-intellectualism and hostility to academia and education system.

it's a bunch of people who want your money -- they're not all the same company, but it's still consumer garbage and just leisure, not something meaningful
Gamers know that, that why piracy exists and microtransactions are ridiculed. No one wants to pay extra. I only play free or pirated games, i never pay for in-game virtual stuff. Many games depends on minority of "whales" who spend thousands on microtransactions.
https://venturebeat.com/2013/03/14/whales-and-why-social-gamers-are-just-gamers/

imagine basing your existence around living for pleasure and doing nothing of use
Not really. If you have a hobby like chess, you'll call yourself a chess player despite chess being 'useless' pleasure.
Gaming is a broad category of hobbies: map/level design, speedrunning, competitive matches, pro-gaming, streaming, game commentators, critique/review blogs,etc. Its an entire cultural layer that you dismiss as something useless: i could instead call all of arts/theatre/ballet/dancing/sculpture/singing/embroidery/etc useless 'culture' hobbies and could point out its a waste of resources and time.

probably counting angry birds on phones,
Mobile gaming is more advanced than you think, with rise of processor power it has mobile versions of every genre.

but I doubt the average "gamer" is more than 25
Old-school gamers and retro-gaming skew it somewhat, but gaming penetrated most age categories(e.g. my dad plays web games obsessively)

you know, the degenerates who spend all their time playing games, and base their whole personality and identity around it
pathetic
These are outliers, addicts that try to escape their problems in gaming worlds.
Its much better than drugs and street crime, trust me. Gaming is a form of virtual escapism that appeals to many civilized people because it provides safety, immediacy and novelty of experience.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 7:15

>>12
the problem with escapism is that you're acknowledging that you're unhappy, but rather than facing the things you want to fix, you opt out and delve into fantasy

that doesn't fix problems

get into ideology and politics and activism instead

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 7:30

>>13
ideology and politics and activism
Thats is actually also escapism, especially for people who have nothing to lose.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 7:40

but rather than facing the things you want to fix, you opt out and delve into fantasy
The problem is facing the things i want to fix will not fix them forever and will have to fix them again and expect additional problems to fix.
Escapism is the 'blackpill' acceptance of defeat in the real world and trying to live within the system with minimal participation effort.
Escapism replaces 'mainstream culture participation' so i don't have to be socially adept and present in society, being a part of social process and part of a community. Its kind of 'alternative social circles' for introverts and INT(J|P)s where you're not bothered by mainstream expectations and social roles.
Like this board is a form of electronic escapism, for example: its essentially a virtual version of a library where people come and talk about stuff they read or think about, without involving real-world issues they have.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 7:41

>>14
Huh? No, it's for people who stand to gain from change. But then again, I wouldn't expect a video game neckbeard to understand anything about goals or a sense of purpose.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 7:44

>>15
acceptance of defeat
Pathetic.

Like this board is a form of electronic escapism
Discussion is not escapism. I am here to try and get other people interested in politics, specifically the things I believe in. You have the ability to not only improve your own life, but to make a positive impact in the world around you. You can't fix everything 100%, but you can at least chip away at big problems that require a lot of effort.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 7:53

>>16
Huh? No, it's for people who stand to gain from change.
As you think. The broad socio-political processes are rarely at the whim of an individual. Your idea of being "part of a movement", "political activism" are escapist activities to pass time as a hobby.
You're not expecting suddenly to "win" your goals, just contribute effort in the vain hope somewhere in the future the political situation will change to your favor and your minute contribution was essential.
This "sense of purpose" is a spook, your ideology is using you as pawn to "your purpose" - you don't decide shit.
If you can see things from the sidelines, ideological fanatics are not innovators or leaders, they're followers and blind believers.
Ideological herds of sheeps steered by skilled manipulators and demagogues.
Reading books doesn't make you smarter and more 'redpilled' if you believe them blindly to be the only truth worth consuming.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-28 8:08

>>17
>> acceptance of defeat
Pathetic.
Its depressive realism. I don't think i can become a social chad or a successful beta-pillar of the community. I prefer living online vs participating in the real world.


Discussion is not escapism. I am here to try and get other people interested in politics, specifically the things I believe in. You have the ability to not only improve your own life, but to make a positive impact in the world around you. You can't fix everything 100%, but you can at least chip away at big problems that require a lot of effort.

Discussion is not escapism
Well it is. You don't discuss the concrete problems, just abstract ideological points and ideas that you hope to refine or refute. Its really just a philosophical debate using broad and vague sentiments.

improve your life
Ideology doesn't do this, your own efforts of self-improvement do. Politics doesn't improve your lifestyle, in fact becoming a political activist of any stripe will put a toll on your psychology and health.

positive impact in the world around you.
Impact requires resources. Empty words, promises and speeches cost nothing.
You can promote memes and copypasta ad infinitum, but it requires real-world resources to change society. Its easier to imagine a creeping 'cultural victory' than to admit to yourself its just a fantasy of a better future, perpetually a few years away.
chip away at big problems
Lets be realistic, i'll have to dedicate lots of time and resources for a big problem and these problems will reduce my quality of life worse than 'unhealth escapism'. Especially when you consider the perilous status of 'political activist' in a society that tracks all your activity and speech. "Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequences" is a great illustration of current affairs.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-30 2:52

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-01 9:21

>>11
it's a bunch of people who want your money -- they're not all the same company, but it's still consumer garbage and just leisure, not something meaningful

This argument doesn't apply to games that don't have microtransactions and are freely available.
Private servers,single-player,indie, retrogaming, emulation,etc all don't require investment.
Not everyone is stupid enough to waste money on games, that segment is large enough that most modern games have DRM and/or key codes to activate.
I also never bought a videocard, if the game can't run on integrated/motherboard graphics i just delete it.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-01 12:17

The real problem with videogames(and most interactive entertainment) is novelty-seeking and short-term rewards for(low-effort tasks) are more than real-life(long-term, high-effort task, low novelty) rewards, which for our monkey brains seem like easy prizes, leading to addictive/unhealthy behavior.
But most people snap out of chasing simulacra and concentrate on real tasks/hobbies, its the people who are bored of the real world that get deep into addiction - the escapist is not finding anything better to do than videogames(and unlike anime/porn its interactive), because just idling and thinking about his situation gets depressive and bleak: videogames represent an active form of coping with a situation.

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