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Great Cataclysm

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 9:24

It's pretty obvious that the future cannot happen due to unsustainable advancements in technology. According to scholars, this is to be expected as everything moves in a cycle -- human civilization cycle (from first settlements to collapse from unsustainable advancement) is 10,000 years. At which point the great cataclysm comes to cleanse the Earth and begin us on our journey of pointless growth again. We are reaching that point shortly, so what do you think that cataclysm will be? Jew mind virus? Sun pulse? Great deluge?

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 9:58

There is nothing unsustainable about technology. What is unsustainable is the human reproductive instinct. The environment would be just fine if there were only 500 million humans consuming at the level of an average American. So don't blame technology.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 10:10

>>2
Nobody is blaming technology. We are simply pointing out that the unsustainable advancements in technology indicate imminent cataclysm.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 10:10

According to scholars
what scholars?

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 10:11

>>4
Most.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 10:21

>>3
There is nothing unsustainable about the current advancements in technology. What is unsustainable is the current speed of pollution which is caused by the unsustainably high level of industrial and agricultural production which are caused by the unsustainably high population and population growth of humanity.

If there were only 500 million of us, we would all be rich and the environment would be OK. But since we can't control our reproductive urges, we will be warring over scant resources and poverty. That is the real culprit, not technological advances.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 10:27

Also, we're heading into an Ice Age with the corresponding famines, epidemics etc. So it won't take any extraordinary cataclysms to send us back into the Dark Ages.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 11:39

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by fault lines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dip shits.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will, cause
I sure could use a vacation from this

Stupid shit, silly shit, stupid shit...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGdoqsuiN8

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 17:10

The fossil records clearly show the first human cycle was closer to 20,000 years.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 17:44

>>9
Are there any fossil records which show people had computers and cell phones and cars back then? Cause otherwise it's not much of a cycle.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 18:39

>>10
If you read Marx, you might understand that historical cycles aren't supposed to be taken literally.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 19:10

>>11
Marx isn't supposed to be taken literally either.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 19:25

>>12
I never implied it was...?

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 19:25

>>7
The dark ages weren't "dark" (in the sense of "not being illuminated by knowledge"), the knowledge developed during our cycle was maintained and expanded on in the dark ages.

But the end of a cycle of humanity is marked by the tremendous cataclysm that wipes the slate of knowledge clean -- save for a few tidbits passed on by survivors hopefully. Humanity must begin anew each time, relearning the secrets of reality such as the Fibonacci sequence.

>>10
That is actually an unanswered question. What we do know is that the ancients from the prior cycle were able to measure longitude and latitude (suggesting an extremely sophisticated time keeping ability) and most of the myths related to survivors of the great flood say that they had unlocked the secrets of biological development -- leading many scholars to suspect they developed complex machines out of plant matter, growing computers instead of building them if you will.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 19:28

>>13
Yes you did. You claimed that reading Marx would lead to some kind of understanding, implying that Marx' books were supposed to be taken as advice/guidance rather than as a figurative allegoric warning about kikery.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 19:35

>>15
Marx provides knowledge without having to be taken literally. Same with the Bible - it contains some good moral principles that one can learn even without actually believing in the Abrahamic God.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 19:41

>>11
Marx was a dumbass who was proven wrong many times over. Who cares what he thought.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 19:51

>>14
Yes they were dark in that sense because without trade and travel there can't be much of technological development or education or the spread of new goods. Just quite, parochial, archaic existence. Human development accelerates only when people start actively moving aroung bringing fresh ideas from other places and establishing mercantile links that allow the economy to boom.

But the end of a cycle
Show us the fossils of anything comparable to current technology or it's not a cycle. The current population seems to be unprecedented by far, too, though that would be harder to decide based on archaeological records.

complex machines out of plant matter, growing computers instead of building them if you will
That would work well in a fantasy game, but in reality they did use machines that were much like ours except much less advanced and powerful:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 20:56

>>17
He was right with regards to history repeating itself though.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 21:18

>>19
Marx thought the opposite, actually: that history follows an inescapable procession of social orders defined by natural law (primitive communism, slavery, feudalism, capitalist, socialism, communism), with communism being objectively the best and most perfect, never to be replaced by a lower form. That's why leftists are called 'progressive' - they believe in a unidirectional progress and consider any deviation from it 'reactionary' and despicable.

Name: Anonymous 2017-01-31 22:39

>>20
No, that's precisely what I'm referring to. Marx had a progressive view of history, but he also believed in the cyclical nature of history, namely the class conflict reinventing itself in a new form in every era. So the idea is there are repeating patterns in history, but societal change (brought on by the resolution of these patterns) is ultimately inevitable.

The problem with "Marxists" is that a lot of them basically end up playing God, and thinking they can dictate the future - but Marx's ideas were mainly about these events being inevitable, whether one actively pushed for them or not. And ironically, people who actively try to fight for "progress" in accordance with their interpretation of Marx, may actually be in a way clinging to values of the past that the inevitable flow of history is trying to abolish. If Marx was right, he's right regardless of whether people believe him or not.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 0:53

>>21
LOL. It's funny how marxist retards have to lie and mislead about everything to do with his work, as though they were literal kikes trying to ruin everything.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 0:56

>>18
Antikythera mechanism is from 2000 or so years ago. Come back when you have evidence of machinery 12000+ years old.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 4:01

>>22
I have no need to lie or mislead. Marx's predictions are equally valuable regardless of whether people believe them or not. In the grand scheme of things, whether you accept or reject Marxism has no bearing on the inevitable arrival of Communist society.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 4:38

>>24
inevitable arrival of Communist society
It's only inevitable when kike agitators introduce it to ruin the social cohesion of a civilization to better allow them to plunder the entire country. There's nothing natural about marx's ideas, workers and business owners are natural allies when kikes are put in the oven.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 4:51

>>25
workers and business owners are natural allies when kikes are put in the oven.
But once that happens, who do you tell the proletarians to blame for their suffering? That's the deepest flaw of fascism, it relies on an 'other' to place blame on and inspire the people to action. But once you've eliminated all external enemies, and the people's lives have not improved -- you are the only one left to blame. Fascists therefore paint themselves into a corner - the fascist ideology is inherently self-destructive. Fascism feeds itself by destroying, and eventually, there will be nothing left for it to destroy, but itself.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 5:13

>>26
Your post was very poorly reasoned, and almost shameful in its incoherence. People don't need to blame others for suffering. That's just kike shitstirring, all bullshit to break apart the natural order that people naturally gravitate towards. Civilization was formed for the benefit of the group in the long term, people are working together to ensure the strongest society (even if some individuals suffer within it to make it stronger).

Any society without Jews will work like this -- a class system and everybody knowing their place and working within that, putting the community and future above any pathetic childish resentment. No need for communism or fascism, two Jewish social poisons that are designed to kill social cohesion so it is easy to rob.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 16:16

>>26
You don't kill ALL of them, dumbass.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 21:15

>>27
Society in general can exist without blame, but fascism cannot. It's all about telling the people ``you need to give up your personal freedoms so we can fight this threat against our culture". But if that threat is gone, the people are going to ask what justification the government has for continuing to deny their freedom. Same thing happened in the USSR, the government told people that full Communism was always just around the corner, and it would arrive if only the people would make more sacrifices and work harder.

And a class system isn't some magical solution to societal instability - everyone who gets the short end of the stick will be susceptible to radicalization. Communism and fascism too had a class system where ``people knew their place", but that didn't mean everyone was satisfied with it.

>>28
That's not a solution. If you don't kill all of them, the people are going to ask why you're letting them continue to ruin the country. If you do eliminate all of them, the people are going to ask why their lives haven't improved, and will eventually blame the government. You can try to prolong the conflict, but if it takes too long and the people aren't seeing the changes you promised, they're going to be inclined to overthrow you. That's exactly what happened in the USSR too, the government promised a Communist utopia, and people were willing to believe that for a while, but when it didn't materialize after decades of sacrifice, they lost faith in the government.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 21:36

>>29
Are you trying to say that the options are being kiked by marxist thieves or else everything will turn into le fascism? Too bad fascism is a fluid jew-word, the original fascism was a tactic to repair society after sneaky Jews polluted it with Marxism. It was a method of rooting out kikes, not a naturally occurring organization of society. The natural organization is everybody knowing their place and working for the good of the tribe. Even if that means not indulging in disgusting Jewy perversions. That's why Marxist was a pedo while Mussolini was a victim of pedos.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 22:01

>>30
Fascism is just totalitarian populist nationalism. That's, like, the actual definition of the word. It was just a bunch of guys that got together and wanted to seize power, and so they found a group to blame, and promised the people that they were going to get rid of them. If the Third Reich survived longer, they would have run into this problem - whether they succeeded in removing the Jews or not, there would still be the problem of the people asking why their lives didn't improve, so fascism could only survive if they found someone else to blame.

And the "natural organization is everybody knowing their place" isn't an answer either, because there is no objective source of what someone's place is. It's all just about how society arranges itself, and eventually someone will decide the country would be better with them in charge, so then you have a civil war, and the process repeats.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-01 23:50

>>31
Why is it that marxist shits have to always redefine words so that they continue to be manipulative boogymen? It's the same shit you pull with redefining racism and claiming people not liking getting blown up is a "phobia" of Islam. Fuck off with your "fluid" jew words.

And the "natural organization is everybody knowing their place" isn't an answer either, because there is no objective source of what someone's place is?
What fucking bullshit kike trash. Yeah, there's no objective source of anything when kikery id afoot. But in a healthy society everybody is working together for the good of the society. Greedy self-absorbed Jews like you might not like that, but everybody else is happy. Face it, marxism will always lead to you getting holocausted eventually, the people will never swallow your perverted shit for long.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-02 6:12

>>32
As someone put it recently, when marxists and liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders, redefining fascism to mean wanting strong borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job marxists and liberals won’t do.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-02 8:23

>>31
You're confusing Fascism with Nazism. Fascism is just collusion of state with large capital, and corresponding cartelization. The modern USA may be described as a fascist state, seeing how the military-industrial complex has the government in its grip.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-02 8:48

A fascist is somebody who stands in the way of communism. Simple as that.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-02 21:23

>>32
``Good of the society" is EXACTLY what Fascist and Communist propaganda is full of. That's exactly what the government says when people complain about mass immigration, high tax rates, and draconian laws: ``yeah, we know you like it, but deal with it since it's for the good of the country".

>>35
A human is a carbon-based lifeform. Simple as that.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-02 22:01

>>36
We know, we know. Caring about anything but raping infants, thieving, and indulging in perverted hedonism is the result of "propaganda". Nice kikery, you disgusting freak.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-02 23:47

>>37
Only propaganda can make you care about things that don't personally benefit you.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-03 2:15

>>38
What a disgusting projecting kike.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-03 3:20

>>39
I live my life for others but I'm totally not cucked because I use a rude word for Jews!

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-03 3:32

>>40
Who are you quoting?

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-03 12:55

>>41
The implications of >>39's post.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-03 14:51

>>36
``Good of the society" is EXACTLY what Fascist and Communist propaganda is full of

It's a shame they stopped making positive propaganda, it's all negative these days

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-03 22:54

>>42
How can an implication be quoted? What you were doing is expressing your inference, while pretending to not be a kike. Formatting it as a quote was a mistake.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-04 0:30

>>44
Quoting the implication of a post is a time-honored internet tradition.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-04 1:33

>>45
Proof?

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-04 3:31

>>46
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aprogrider.org+%22quoting+the+implications%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-04 8:44

>>47
I don't think I want to click that...?

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-04 16:23

>>45
No it's not. This isn't 4chan.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-04 18:37

>>49
Nobody said it is, though...?

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-04 18:40

>>50
Dude, you have to gtfo.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-05 10:12

>>50
I'd like to preface this post with a congratulations for trolling me so. I'm giving you 10/10 for this.

The meme of abusing the traditional email quote originated in 4chan. They repurposed the meaning from being used as a simple quote to something different. Ever since those beginnings, we of w4ch/prog/ have actively rejected this reinterpretation of this style. Do not claim that this is a tradition of progrider, do not claim that this is a tradition of w4ch/prog/ which came before progrider.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-06 8:37

>>50
Nice ellipsis, faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-06 16:45

We are reaching that point shortly, so what do you think that cataclysm will be? Jew mind virus? Sun pulse? Great deluge?
Butlerian Jihad, obviously.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-06 18:09

>>54
I'd prefer Maido Jihad. Or loli.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-06 20:09

>>52
Even more outrageously, this misuse of the quote convention was developed by anti-anime goon-affiliated posters who would use it as a tool to berate anime-lovers. Example:
literally watching gay cartoons made for little girls

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-06 21:56

>>52
You do know /prog/ used to be a 4chan board?

>>56
Whom are you quoting?

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-06 22:16

>>56
Anime is shit.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-06 22:23

>>57
Who are you quoting?
That was explained in the first damn sentence of the post. Also, if you're wondering who I am quoting, I am quoting your post sans the pretentiousness.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-06 22:51

>>57
Don't get me started on that. World4ch will always be distinct and separate to 4chan in my book.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-07 14:51

>>60
World4ch is dead, whatever you say about it is invalid

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-07 17:02

>>61
Progrider is dead, what do you have to say about that, mr invalid.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-07 17:23

>>62
time to move on

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-07 19:14

>>63
Not an option.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-07 22:50

>>62
Progrider is spiritually as dead as w4ch is literally.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-11 19:34

>>62
Is Admin dead?

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-12 10:28

>>66
No.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-12 10:29

>>66
Whoa, that even worked! I meant to say that Admin is dead since he banned me recently, and now has actually unbanned me.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-12 19:27

>>68
If he is so alive, why hasn't he removed spam? Checkmate, methinks.....

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-12 20:13

>>69
Because he likes banning way more than doing colonoscopy.

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-12 22:49

colonscope this *spreads dickhole*

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-15 12:09

Admin is deader than haskal, i have been shitpoasting on \prog\ forever and am not b& yet

Name: Anonymous 2017-02-16 9:53

>>72
Admin-kike-nigger is collecting your IP's for the ban.
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