Did a big crunch predate the big bang?

Let's speculate on what happened before everything expanded.

Everything contracted.
There was no big bang.

>>2
I know the big bang wasn't really a big bang, more of like a gradual expansion, but it's still commonly referred to as the big bang.

Will big data eventually suffer a big crunch?

After a high dose of DMT I learnt that our rationalization of the Universe is just a grain of sand in an infinite desert mostly governed by what we could call Chaos. The so-called "expansion" is no more than an illusion, a mirage, only visible from certain places of the subgroup of entities that humans nominated "spacetime" (which is in fact yet another illusion, or if you prefer, human interpretation).

From ancient times Humans tried hard to find patterns everywhere. They used to see the sky at night, and started drawing lines between stars to crate complex figures, and then they named these figures. The position of these figures changed in harmony with the seasons: this was a significant discovery, that helped them to improve their life. For this reason they started to be in love with the patterns. Some people even started to practice ceremonies: they wanted to show how thankful they felt for this divine unidirectional communication... and the real passionate wanted to obtain more information from the sky, they wanted to learn more about these Gods. After a while they created tools to try understand them, and they found that it was much complex than they first though. Science is a branch of this school: they believe in it because it makes their life more predictable and secure. They still believe in the figures, but now are a bit more abstract.

The reality that humans will never be able to understand, but maybe at some point accept, is that the Universe is not intrinsically coherent. "Before" the "expansion" there was nothing.

>>5

After a high dose of DMT I learnt

You didn't learn anything. Your brain was firing off randomly and you tripped balls for a while. I haven't tried DMT, but I have tripped on shrooms and acid, and even though other people I know claimed to feel more "enlightened" afterwards I saw through that bullshit and realized I was just high out of my mind and hallucinating hardcore. You don't learn truths when you're using psychedelics. It's just garbage.
People like Terence McKenna are the worst kinds of people. Using drugs does not make you some sort of divine philosopher who knows more than everyone else. You're just a druggie who has seen some cool (but meaningless) shit.

>>6

I was just high out of my mind and hallucinating hardcore

The "hallucinations" aren't the point. Our brains really do discard the vast majority of stimuli (both from the body and externally) to keep our world coherent and give relevant sensations more impact. Acid, mushrooms, etc. break up this routine discarding of sensation, leading to fresh perceptions. This can and often does have the effect of disrupting negative thought patterns and assumptions you have grown so used to you don't realize are influencing your mind. These are SUBTLE effects, but they are very real and life-changing at times.

I used to be like you, and was disappointed by lsd and the rest because the visuals and feelings could be so easily tied back to certain brain processes being messed with rather than anything mystical (example: the light trails you see are simply your eyelashes not being ignored because your brain is impaired). But after taking hallucinogens a few more times I realized I felt a lot more confident and at ease with the world - like my brain was untying knots while I was tripping.

The point is, hallucinogens are a form of therapy, and that is why they are held in such high regard by so many - it can cure depression and other reactive mental illnesses. However, many druggies don't want to admit they are riddled with mental problems like depression and anxiety so they pretend there is something "mystical" rather than therapeutic to the experience.

>>7

I tripped one too many times and now I'm batshit insane

fixed that for you

>>8
Are you kidding? Zero of the claims made in >>7 can be disputed, as evidenced by even the most basic of Google searches or, you know, reading a book or two. Yes the brain does settle into routines and discards the majority of stimuli it comes into contact with. Yes hallucinogens break up these routines and bring other perceptions to the forefront of consciousness. And yes, millions of people report their depression and other mental problems was relieved after tripping several times.

>>6
Are you kidding? What kind of suggestible asshole has ACTUAL hallucinations while taking the drugs you specified? Honest question.

Are you kidding? Check my dubs.

>>6

I haven't tried DMT

So your opinion is irrelevant: DMT is not like psilocybin nor LSD-25; DMT is much more natural for the brain and it actually let you think as when you are lucid, but more analytically and abstractly. Of course your imagination will have an important role during the "trip", but that doesn't make all the ideas instantly false nd meaningless.

>>12

that doesn't make all the ideas instantly false nd meaningless

Of course it does.

predate my anus

Such speculations are pointless since the singularity nature of the Big Bang precludes infoarmation passage.

This thread is ended. The end. The thread is oaver.

>>15
There was no singularity, idiot. Singularities are a mathematical fantasy, they do not exist in nature.

Infoarmation did not pass the Big Bang barrier, hence it is a singularity whether you like it oar not. Admit yoar roal.

Before the Big Bang, I ate a large extra spicy burrito. That was my roal.

I Big Banged you're mother. :^)

Are you kidding? Zero of the claims made in >>20 can be disputed, as evidenced by even the most basic of Google searches or, you know, reading a book or two.

No human ever went to the moon.

>>17
There was no big bang barrier. The existence of the Universe is cyclic, contractions follow expansions, there are no singularities anywhere anytime.