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Name: Anonymous 2014-01-27 19:08

We should create a club/lodge for programmers. If stonemasons created one many years ago just because they knew how to carve stupid stones and build some basic structures, why we still don't have one?
This is what we need:
A symbol.
A secret handshake.
A set of rules.
An unknown leader.
An unknown sub-leader.
A library with exceptional computer books, a printed version of world4ch's /prog/ (aka The Old Testament), ancient computers, and other relics.
A list of heretic languages carved in stone.

Name: Anonymous 2014-01-28 19:55

>>27
Not really. I know the basic physics, and I designed a crappy microcoded 4-bit register machine with an ALU as part of my formal education. But that's it.

There's plenty of really very very good EDA tools out there. Cadence's offerings I hear are the very best, although I have not used them. GNU Electric is little known but highly regarded (developed at Sun, used to design Sun products (now Oracle)), and very easy to use (I have used it).

I've tried using the gEDA suite but that's the usual UNIX style small is beautiful batch processing with text interface bullshit i.e. unusable efficiently by humans, terrible to interface for programmers. There's KiCAD which I haven't tried using, but seems nicer than gEDA.

There used to be New Schematic for Symbolics' Genera...

To get started you'd probably want to read http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/ which uses gEDA tools. Then you'd want to read the bible i.e. "The art of electronics", or maybe read "Practical electronics for inventors" before that. When you read the latter two books it's probably good to follow along with whatever EDA tools you choose (might be a good idea to choose two of them and compare).

There's lots of examples to study from: http://opencores.org//.

With specific regards to the CPU the PDP-10 is interesting, as is the SPARC for contrast. Symbolics' patents are absurdly and stupidly detailed...

http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/symbolics/patents/4887235_3600_patent.pdf

>>26
It's not ``LISP'' (and hasn't been for a while), it's Common Lisp, and it's a system, including, but not just, an interpreter. In fact, I don't remember ever evaluating (setf sb-ext:*evaluator-mode* :interpret), so I probably have never used the interpreter. It runs on a wide variety of computers and operating systems including the world's favorite UNIX and VMS clones.

I use Linux myself, and I suppose I am grateful, but in no way do I think it's ideal or even close to it. The UNIX philosophy or the UNIX way should be something to be abhorred and disgusted by, embraced only out of practical necessity for money in today's world, not something to idolize.

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