90% of people alive today are horrifying mutants who are too dysfunctional to operate on Earth. Monogamy, abundant agriculture and health care (the backbone of civilization) are literally satanic and have created legions of people who hate nature and beauty due to their broken bodies and perverted minds.
Why do you think the rainforest is being cut down and replaced with soy beans to feed cows? Because subhuman freaks, the product of civilization, are rebelling against nature due to their inability to fit within it. Thank God the coming cataclysm will eradicate all of you anti-beauty fuck ups.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 3:09
Monogamy, abundant agriculture and health care
those are good things, but overpopulation driven by capitalism makes it worse we need small and sustainable communities, not constant growth cancer is when cells keep on multiplying... indefinite growth, which eventually kills you capitalism requires indefinite growth guess what the outcome will be unless we switch to small and sustainable traditional communities which reject consumerism and capitalism?
>>3 nice buzzwords, isn't it cool to let memes dictate your views instead of thinking for yourself? memes let you present an argument or insult without you having to do any of the thinking yourself
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Anonymous2018-10-17 6:19
>>4 Look up the definition of meme, kiddo. All arguments are based on memes, it's how ideas spread.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 6:36
>>5 Memes are effective only when there is critical mass of NPCs around to spread them. At higher levels of discussion, memes are just obnoxious cultural artifacts which devalue your arguments.
When The Buddha said "signs and symbols rule the world" in the 1600s he could only have been talking about memes.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 6:57
The fact that he probably never said that is also a meme; his saying that is a meme that spread so even though he probably didn't say it, he did.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 7:01
NPC: Spoons make people fat NPC: Guns kill people NPC: Memes control the world
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Anonymous2018-10-17 7:07
>>10 No, asshole, an analogy isn't apt by default. Saying memes control the world is entirely unrelated to saying spoons make people fat, your attempt at association falls flat. You see, I know why you made a tortured analogy to imply your point rather than simply stating the point: the point you are making is fucking retarded and if you had expressed it directly everybody would have laughed at you.
By concealing your point in a false analogy (that isn't even a proper analogy, but rather just a subtly implied comparison) you were hoping that the duller readers would assume that any analogy/comparison is automatically apt and not consider it further. You are using a rudimentary form of brainwashing because you seriously have no arguments.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 7:11
>>11 Thanks for inoculating me, and others, against his tactics. I've fallen victim to analogy-based brainwashing so many times, it's just that analogies make things seem so deep and meaningful and goddamn smart. But I will try to think about each analogy more from now on, analyzing whether it is truly apt in its context.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 7:13
>>11 Who do you think creates and controls memes? A.The memes B.The people who create and publish the memes Who do you think controls the world? A.The memes B.The people who create and publish the memes
Memes are like Gods (sometimes literally in that all Gods are memes) they aren't controlled but those who serve them will have tremendous power on Earth. So A is correct both times, >>13, I recommend picking up book sometime.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 9:18
>>14 If a meme creator "discovers" a meme he has control over its future, he can choose to publish it, modify or abandon it.(Unless of course the creator is a mindless NPC accidentally stumbling over the meme somehow).
>>15 You're describing the mechanism by which NPCs adopt a meme-complex as religion, using anthropomorphism and magical thinking.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 9:20
>>16 If I discover a source of great power I can choose to abandon it, yes. Eventually somebody with more wherewithal will discover it, however.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 9:24
>>17 You're basically admitting that you abandon all your agency and free will, so when a "great power" presents to you, you become its servant?
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Anonymous2018-10-17 9:30
>>18 That's how it works isn't it? I mean I guess an uber-male like you can easily dominate a great power with your immeasurable will, but for the rest of us it is either submit or leave.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 9:32
NPC: Memes are Gods. NPC: I serve memes. NPC: Memes will make me powerful. NPC: If memes are powerful, those who serve them are powerful too.
The crucial error here is this: The NPCs who spread/serve/repeat/modify memes are not actually powerful. They're guided by meme script and acts as replicator units(memebots).
What actually happens: The PCs(vast majority of meme engineers) who create and publish the initial memes(Original Content) are powerful(over NPCs perception) because they control its spread, nature and direction. The PCs may choose to masquerade as memebot NPCs to seed the meme into a content farm(like 4chan/twitter), where its picked up and spread/modified further. The memes barely affect other PCs, who are annoyed by the meme garbage spewed by memebot NPCs, so they devise deconstructions or subversions of the memes, controlling the direction of NPC crowd towards their goal. In the end, brainwashed NPCs get tired from repeating PC-generated meme content and switch to something newer(thats why memes "expire" and "get old") and cycle repeats again.
Your "meme Gods" are just creative PCs with understanding of NPC psychology(aka crowd psychology), they sense what makes the NPCs tick and how the meme should be designed/spread(mimicry of NPC acceptance, fake approval, artificial peer pressure, guiding the crowd).
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Anonymous2018-10-17 10:08
>>22 Pathetically limited view. These so-called PCs are but vehicles the memes use to enact their will. There's no creation going on, only serving the memes. Try engaging your brain with higher level thinking, anony.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 10:35
>>23 NPC: I cannot resist replicating memes like a mindless animal. I serve Memes, i am their vehicle *Cultish chanting* There's no creation going on, only serving the memes. ONLY THE MEMES. ONLY THE MEMES. ONLY THE MEMES.
Try engaging your brain with higher level thinking.
Read your own advice. Its your original mind giving you a hint.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 10:52
A Note for Christian/Religious NPCs not understanding the concept of a "memebot": Memes are making you a toy of demonic forces unconcerned with your wellbeing/survival and if you believe strong enough in "meme Gods"/"meme power" as an entity, you create(summon) tulpas(thought-forms) linked directly into your mental body with direct line to your soul. That tulpa(memebot) will slowly take over your mind and insert reactive-programming template(thought-patterns). The sum of these tulpas are controlled by egregore of the meme which is empowered by your mindless replications of it, you create your own "meme Gods", you feed them energy, you surrender to your tulpas, etc. If you allow memes root-level access into your mind, they will turn you into a NPC memebot. "These so-called PCs are but vehicles the memes use to enact their will." <-- this is your future on memes.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 11:09
Destruction of nature is great. Nature is evil. Anything that increases intelligence and creativity is eugenic, even if it reduces the body to a husk. You may not like those facts because of your programming which asserts that "that which seems, but isn't" is better than "that which truly is, but doesn't seem", but you can't dispute them.
Living in a toxic desert devoid of life sure is "good".
Anything that increases intelligence and creativity is eugenic, even if it reduces the body to a husk.
That something is certainly isn't memes.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 13:19
>>27 Nature isn't just forest vs deserts, it's more about diseases, predation, rape, murder, cuckoldry, instinct, superstition - all of those are natural. A better analogy would be a garden vs a layer of mud at the bottom of a swamp lake.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 13:31
>>28 NPC: X is both natural AND evil. NPC: If X is natural its part of Nature. NPC: Therefore all Nature is evil. NPC: Lets destroy Nature.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 13:32
>>29 NPC: If X disagrees with me, he's a NPC NPC: Here's a strawman of X that I need to pretend he's a NPC
It's in your nature to act like this, so I can't really blame you for not being better than this.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 14:40
>>30 Unfortunately its the only way to force NPCs to consider their thinking has logical fallacies. To construct an obvious strawman that illustrates their thinking in its most basic form. This particular logical fallacy is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illicit_minor
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Anonymous2018-10-17 14:46
>>31 Concrete example to dumb it down further. All diseases are evil. All diseases are natural. Therefore, all natural things are evil.
To construct an obvious strawman that illustrates their thinking in its most basic form.
Except the only things you illustrated is your inability to understand and your butthurt.
It goes like this:
Not-strawman: nature is evil because most of it is evil NPC: woooow, I like nature, it can't be evil, I need to fix this Strawman: nature is evil because one element of it is evil, and anything that is a part of nature is therefore evil NPC: worldview == oldWorldview && !cognitiveDissonance
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Anonymous2018-10-17 18:23
Not-strawman: nature is evil because most of it is evil
Your body is a natural thing. Is it evil? Would you "destroy Nature" if it includes your body?
NPC: woooow, I like nature, it can't be evil,
I didn't say that. Nature is a category that you applied emotional labels, which leads to fallacies.
Strawman: nature is evil because one element of it is evil, and anything that is a part of nature is therefore evil
That is the only correct part. It comes directly from your post generalizing emotional sentiment about a category from judging a few members of that category.
No, because it is controlled by a being better than vast majority of natural ones.
I didn't say that.
You implied that by all those fallacious appeals to nature.
It comes directly from your post generalizing emotional sentiment
I didn't generalize any emotional sentiment.
The only cognitive dissonance here is you not realizing that you're a part of nature.
Another cognitive dissonance of yours: you half-realize, but implicitly deny, the fact that a PC does not glorify group he belongs to to make himself feel better. I am refinement of nature, with best parts magnified and worst parts attenuated. All my evils come from nature, but I am not just nature.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 18:40
>> Your body is a natural thing. Is it evil?
No, because it is controlled by a being better than vast majority of natural ones.
So Natural things aren't always evil?
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Anonymous2018-10-17 18:55
>>36 Traits of the whole aren't shared by every single component. Just because nazi germany certainly was evil, it doesn't mean there weren't some good nazis.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 19:12
>>37 Do you realize that destroying the whole("Nature") will cause damage to its components("your body") since its affected by environment?
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Anonymous2018-10-17 19:22
>>38 Only if it is done haphazardly, by wrecking shit like someone who obeys own nature. Careful deconstruction by agriculture, medicine, monogamy, AI-driven optimization, replacement with superior synthetic components (solar panels instead of plants) etc. will get rid of shitty parts of nature without harming those who are in the process of transcending nature.
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Anonymous2018-10-17 19:37
>>39 Wouldn't it be a transformative rather than destructive process in >>26 ? Instead of striving to to destroy nature, understand its mechanisms and processes to create better alternatives to provide mankind with more options? So Transhumanism and genetic engineering? I agree with that, but keeping our ecosystems alive before that occurs is equally important - the transhumanist utopia can't be jumpstarted after an ecological collapse and loss of industrial techology.
