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Determinism

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-03 16:30

Free will doesn't exist. It's all just a bunch of physics rules.

What happens when you mix red and blue paint? You get purple. What happens when you put mentos in coke? It fizzes. If you put two magnets next to each other with similar polarities, they will repel. These are just things that happen automatically. They do not "choose" to happen.

Human personalities and thoughts are just more complicated versions of that. We do things based on our previous experiences. Our personalities and decision-making processes are just complicated algorithms. It's like a more complicated version of Conway's Game of Life. We have no say in the matter.

If you knew the position of every particle in the universe, you could know the future, because we are all just interacting in linear ways.

People cite dumb shit like the uncertainty principle, as if not knowing the position or speed of something means none of this is true. Other people cite pseudoscientific metaphysics bullshit. But at the end of the day, 2+2 does not choose to be 4. It just is. Similarly, Everything we do is already determined based on the interactions of particles in us and around us.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-07 19:05

>>34
"Random will" sounds way worse than "Free"(which implies chaos/freedom/randomness/uncertainty/doubt/etc). Perhaps it would make us reexamine where the "Freedom" of the will comes from.

The problem is that "Free will" is interpreted by religious crowd as something like "100% fully determined by the individual based on his thoughts(thats btw some sneaky determinism)" so "Free will" implies all "Free"(chaotic/random/externally influenced) actions are ultimately our responsibility(as if source of Will is located solely with our decisions).

That thinking leads to current culture where sin is a personal failure of "picking the wrong option" and not from random influence/chaos. Btw free will and hard determinism are incompatible by design, but religions try to combine them anyway.

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