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Name: Anonymous 2018-07-01 17:45

Social media, Netflix, TV, movies... that's for human garbage.

Read books to improve your life. Not garbage grocery store romance novels or best-selling pleb shit, but important books. No scifi or fantasy escapist trash either. Read books that make you think.

What kind of books have you read lately? What kinds of books do you like?

Here are some books I like:
1984
Brave New World
Fahrenheit 451
Amusing Ourselves to Death
Society of the Spectacle
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media
Can Life Prevail?
Propaganda
Walden
Th Ego and Its Own
Authority and the Individual
The Machine Stops
Technological Slavery
Crime and Punishment
The Collapse of Western Civilization

Books I plan on reading:
Animal Farm
The Will to Power
The Degenerate Society: Postmodernism And How You Can Oppose It
The Panopticon Writings
Beyond Good and Evil
The Decline of the West
Why Nations Fail
Revolt Against the Modern World
Democracy: The God That Failed
Men Among the Ruins: Post-War Reflections of a Radical Traditionalist

I read a lot of programming books too, though you'll notice that I didn't list any here. Even though it's the industry I'm in, I can't help but feel like tech is soulless bugman shit that is accelerating the rise of degeneracy in the west.

Ideologically-driven books are the most captivating. They're the kinds of books that make you want to read them cover to cover.

But enough about my taste in books. So what do you like? And what would you recommend reading?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-01 22:24

>>48
But people aren't as one-dimensional as you make them out to be, so it seems like you're trying to pigeonhole me as being some certain stereotype rather than understanding that people's views are a little more nuanced.

Could you just apply this little principle to people around you?
They're not all "leftists","spergs", "ivory tower intellectuals", they are not monolithic ideological zombies you think them to be.

Not all ideas are meant to be public, when one proclaims some public information hes forced to inherently adapt, condense and censor the unedited form to appease audience and maximize the chances of its reception.

I have to be polite and tone down my sarcasm often. I have ideas that don't fit mainstream ideologies. I don't tell everything on my mind - its pointless to try to convince a few people directly(even with good arguments), waste time to defend my points(outside of forums/boards) with the wider audience and be on watch for challenges for my arguments - its too old-fashioned for my tastes.

I don't make threads to push my favorite opinions and ideological stances. I work in more subtle ways. Consider the concept of the meme as 'isolated media units':
If you can influence the cultural matrix, you can push your own changes without fighting narratives deeply set in people's minds. Its called "memetic engineering" but its not really about picture with top/bottom text, its about the broader concept of 'small content nuggets' that can be mutated/combined with different forms and influence things to specific direction.

To change how people think you can:

1.Create new content. A memory of new ideas/things can compete with existing narratives. The content doesn't have to be true - it just have to be unique and memetic/catchy/novel.

2.Change the form/medium of content.
Make a meme out of existing information:
Example: https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/Two-Buttons
That meme is often used to highlight cognitive dissonance or double standards.

3.Change the template of content. The template is like a blank slate meme with specific form.
More effective meme templates, better textual forms, more "digestible" content. Be creative, not logical.

4.Change the framing (narrative) about content. Invent backstories and narratives to promote your memes.
The core meme message is the only relevant part, the framing narrative can be changed on the whim to suit the audience.

5.Change the interaction with content.
Promote or respond to your own content to force interaction and gauge responses. Create artificial conflict and plan memetic responses for canned replies.

These are not all the methods. You can exploit the ideas of "psychological analysis" to create precision 'logic' bombs(essentially trolling/disruption) to force the local narrative to fight your ideas and constructs, becoming susceptible to memetic attack.

You can subvert entire thinking patterns by inserting paradoxical influences(e.g. memes that mock the pattern or follow it to absurdity/fallacy, anti-patterns that seem to produce more truthful/correct results) and forcing the person to stop and reevaluate his mental methods.

The focus on plain content and arguments about which 'content is correct' is so 20th century.
Meta-content, framing and form are just as important:
You can call it "subversive postmodernism" or "memetics" if you like, but its not ideological, its a tool that can be used for nearly anything.

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